Lawsuit update:
Submission on 30 November from “PS”.
Could “P.S.” be the M7’s lawyer?
Looks like Jabba the Hutt has mail waiting for him at his Zagreb attic.
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Lawsuit update:
Submission on 30 November from “PS”.
Could “P.S.” be the M7’s lawyer?
Looks like Jabba the Hutt has mail waiting for him at his Zagreb attic.
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
407 paid members
No video for over a month, only that livestream two weeks ago.
This is what happens when you abandon your channel.
This isn’t just your run of the mill Lloyd Evans “mental health break”. Something happened there that made him forget about all this.
They’ve had peace in the Middle East.
A Brazilian grew a tree.
A blasé LA divorceé, gave Lloyd Evans sex for free.
It’s a miracle.
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It's almost like someone constantly insisting that he knows he is "a good person."
That "Aftermath" video is very underrated imo. It is so chock full of Lloydisms and serves as such a fuck you to everyone, it functions perfectly as "The White Album" to the original livestream's "Sargent Pepper".
Besides the "I'm a good man" and "I'm a father!" chicanery, my favourite starts at 22:15
I may have lost friends due to this nonsense. I may have lost colleagues, subscribers, collaborators, and supporters. My company may have lost tens of thousands of dollars in revenue contributing to its eventual closure as the only production company dedicated to ex Jehovah's Witness content in the world - by the way guys [sarcastically extends his thumb] great job on that! - But there are still two things I have - a voice and a YouTube channel.
That entire video explains best where Lloyd is at this moment in time - brimming with anger and refusal to acknowledge facts that are clear as day. Vintage Lloyd and it perfectly encapsulates his mindset. He feels entitled to that money and has no self awareness that he just gave away his game - tens of thousands in that company whilst he was doing so very little for the past two years. Where did the tens of thousands go? Look at his output since late 2021! And he has the nerve to complain that his money ran out because most people stopped donating to him!
The results speak for themselves. Lloyd has his voice but so do many others he has failed to bully into taking their videos down and leaving as he has done so many times in the past.uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
Patreon has in recent years been financially impacted in negative ways. Their take was originally 5% - now it is 12%. They also attempted to tack on a service charge to Patrons until they received so much backlash that they cancelled it.
They also closed offices in Ireland and Germany and laid off close to 20% of their workforce.
Hardly signs of a thriving business model. Since so many creators are dependent upon Patreon, they can get away with increasing their take some more.
What, is Jabba the Hutt going to close his Patreon account?
I’d hate to have 90% of my livelihood hinging on them and their whims. It’s really a service created for what amounts to “tips”, not for someone to live off.
put in your bets as to where you think lard i mean lloyd evans will land after december's drop in his patrons.
in september he started at 457 patrons, did his whiny begging fest and peaked at 478, but then dropped down to 439 at the beginning of october.
as of this moment (nov. 6), he's at 427 paid members.. so, where do you think he'll be on december 2nd?
it looks like his support might be reaching a point of equilibrium
We are creeping towards his low of 387 in January. It still was dropping like 20 or so every month then. My question then was at what point does it stabilise because he does operate in cult fashion and many are conditioned to follow and support him in spite of all contrary info.
The one thing that sticks out besides the lower EOM drops are the fewer that join during the month. A few times Lloyd nearly made up the entire drop during the month. The joins are a lot fewer, indicating that his content is stale and no longer relevant. He’s also shown a reluctance to follow through on his promise to steer away from exJW content that he made in September. All videos since then have been exJW ones.
I feel he’s afraid to pull that trigger so quickly because of the Patreon situation and his inability to reverse the tide.
At 410, that’s still a lot of Patrons for the content he is actually producing. Look for the slow bleed to continue, accounting for even the longer term supporters who still like him but figure it’s time to move on from all this.
If I were him I’d be focused on getting new ones in and a publicised two week holiday at a supporter’s expense and an admission of lesser content is not the way forward.
Lloyd always has a way to fuck things up unprovoked. He’s taking the long term supporters for granted and is failing to generate new interest.
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So he’s on track to be round his January 2023 levels or perhaps slightly ahead.
Safe to say that his begging stunts do not work anymore in the long term.
400 patrons is more like his ceiling. He’s not gaining anymore. For the first time in awhile he’s now forced to be conscious as to how he spends his money.
put in your bets as to where you think lard i mean lloyd evans will land after december's drop in his patrons.
in september he started at 457 patrons, did his whiny begging fest and peaked at 478, but then dropped down to 439 at the beginning of october.
as of this moment (nov. 6), he's at 427 paid members.. so, where do you think he'll be on december 2nd?
Las Malvinas son Argentinas had that number😳 But then
Fuck. I thought I had Jabba the Hutt on this one.
Next month…. We dancing in the 300s.
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That @cedarsjwsurvey hijack on Twitter/X has to be the defining moment in the fall of Lloyd Evans.
It’s like the Fall of Constantinople and the conquered Temple Mount all in one.
We are like Islam. Took the holiest of sites and built a fucking mosque on top of it.
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Public life is such an unforgiving business. Things people say and do are public and reputations are forever. Stars who were once in high demand and on several big budget movies are today practically begging for parts they never would have considered before.
But when someone is a complete dick and no one wants to work with them, things hit a brick wall. Movie stars like Shia Lebouf are effectively blacklisted because of this. Lloyd finds himself in the same predicament.
With that said, his 420 patrons + YT members are artificially high for his quality and quantity of work. Like a footballer or NBA star in the tail end of their career, he’s playing out the last years of his contract that won’t be renewed. These numbers are correcting themself and have been for some time. Newbies are finding him nowhere near what he may have came recommended as and are finding other creators. It is so hard to reboot in this public sphere.
When he’s giving everyone the finger with his non-apology and threatening people with lawsuits, it only hastens his fading star.
He’ll return thinking he’s solved his problem once and for all. A few new things will be attempted but they won’t stick.
put in your bets as to where you think lard i mean lloyd evans will land after december's drop in his patrons.
in september he started at 457 patrons, did his whiny begging fest and peaked at 478, but then dropped down to 439 at the beginning of october.
as of this moment (nov. 6), he's at 427 paid members.. so, where do you think he'll be on december 2nd?
He’s down to 420 now, -2 from his previous low this month. I don’t think his absence and excuse why is going down too well.
I would like to revise my Patreoff number to 396.